It wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't Keith Moon playing the drums.Oh absolutely, but at the same time, it's Pete Townshend protecting his idea. Because every night I went out and watched Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Guitar Saved Me!: Jeff Beck Looks Back in Never-Before-Heard Interview Audio Really hurts some guys. Ad Choices. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. How do you think you can keep that going?Discipline. For Zanes, the tour should have been heaven on earth. Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. University - Staff Department: Chemistry Position: Science & Engineering Assoc (650) 725-0245 (office) Additional Info . Stan did everything he could to get fired, Petty said. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. It works really well with him. 90.9 KB Views: 172. But I don't buy that whole thingI think most musicians really want attention and they want to be heard, and it's great! Heres the important point. But one of you is gonna change, because you can't coexist in those two different universes. Then today, as soon as his tour bus hit Philadelphia, it all began again with three more. So I think that if you're flat, if you've hit a point where you just don't know where the hell to turn, that's usually somebody's way of saying, "Man, you need a bro.". Those that have done their homework and that are honest and humble, you can't stop 'em! You don't need to try so hard - boy, you wasted a lot of energy trying to be loved by everybody, and the bottom line is that wasn't what was important. It has a special vibe when its just the two of you. And so we started closing the show with it. I promise you.. The classic situation of midlife pinning a person down to the mat. Here are a couple of albums Stan has worked on that are worth checking out: Barry Sides "Broken Hearts Broken Strings", Dixie Desperados , Drew Copeland and Gregg McMillan's first solo album. How was it working with an established guy like Denny Cordell [Leon Russell, Joe Cocker, Procol Harum] so early on? And he died soon after. Petty is a rock star who is also a member of a band that has been together since the mid-seventies, and it is difficult to be one without undermining the other. And then I was working with Rick Rubin on a session I think it. And I wonder if you have any idea what the core values are that have helped you to stay sane, and also to grow as a person as you've gotten older and avoid becoming stagnant or bitter.Well I have those days.stagnant and bitter, that would describe several weeks of the year. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. So that was the perspective I had immediately. I really tried to put on the school tie, man, I tried like hell for the last five years. And certainly in Pettys life, it was a big deal when he and George Harrison came together. Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. Stanley Joseph "Stan" Lynch (born May 21, 1955) is an American musician, songwriter and record producer. Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. I think he was invested in being caught in that cycle in part because there was so much movement in it all that the trouble from his past was kept at bay. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . I didnt know whether to say, Thank you or Fuck you. I only knew I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my life. Hep Alien and Yannick like this. My music life especially has always felt very cartoonish! They were very bright men. Theres more to this interview! Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. But if its all of us without Tom, theres this big hole in the room. They got me a Beatles magazine from 1965, the year I was born. It's not a weenie thing to do at all. They preferred the punkier numbers, like Even the Losers and Refugee, to the Byrds-ier T.P. You have left the Del Fuegos. Lynch accepted the offer, and the two re-established their musical partnership. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. I don't think I have ever watched a drummer being interviewed that was so relatable. In retrospect, I look back at that scene, in that office, and I think that maybe its the happiest Ive seen Tom Petty by looking at his face. Stan and I had some personal conflicts with family here and there, he says. It's really nothing to have a record deal now, it doesn't mean anything. I think I have some Tom nuances in my voice. All rights reserved. And therefore if I'm gonna sell I have to play to the means. You just say well, you coulda done, or you shoulda done, or would youand what you're really saying is "Why didn't you do it my way?" I had a kit in my house, and I had to take it away. Stan said no to the interview between three and four times. Stan: Absolutely. But it hasn't taken over your soul.No, no. Joe Jackson, Past, Present, and Fast Forward, A New York Doll Gets the Scorsese Treatment. It never felt that strange. Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed at the Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. So it helps you to step back and maintain that perspective. Im not really there emotionally, he says. Im suddenly in this room holding a magazine. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. I'm not overly celebrated; I feel like I was given just the right amount of notoriety that I could handle. And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". You know? Therefore I should do a duet with N'Sync!" Id gone from Madison Square Garden to being a bike mechanic. He was working on a bike when he first heard Runnin Down a Dream, from Pettys 1989 album Full Moon Fever. And I thought, There he goes. I was pleased to see that was still there. Or, you know - go grow avocados for a year! Are you up for it?, Lynchs first instinct was to decline the offer. You haven't taken it too seriously.Oh, no! Youre a guy who wants to write songs now. He soon found himself in the middle of some conversations that the band was having through himconversations they had never had with themselves. Well that was one of the best interviews ever John! Stan was the lone extrovert in this band of introverts. I was on my fuckin knees, staring at the sky. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. Now theres a book in itself.. And then kind of pushed me in. Artists, Interviews It's great when you actually find somebody that doesn't hear music the way you do and you start to love them for it. I mean, to me the most rock'n'roll thing you can do is not give a shit! Having Stan [Lynch] play on that is very cool. MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. Also, I could never really close doors on people that were important in my past. Which is great, I mean, that means you certainly don't have to compromise! There were moments that I really treasure with those guys that can't be duplicated, you'll never get it again. And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. But I think he did because hes had his own experiences with books that portray his heroes as humans. During his tenure as a Heartbreaker, Lynch became intimately familiar with both the ups and the downs of working in a rock band. I park and go to the lounge outside his studio. And George Harrison looks at me and says, Its Brian Jones, back from the dead. Of course, George knows enough what a man who wants an autograph looks like. I just heard "record deal"! What do you do if you yourself manage to keep your head on straight but you're working closely with someone who can't?I've had that experience, and it was really painful because I was so young I didn't really know what was happening. Stan Lynch: Drumming in the Music BizInsights on how to stay sane in a crazy business. Lets get right to this. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". So I wanted to put the drums down. God bless 'em! Yet, you've actually taken better care of yourself and remained healthier mentally and physically than many of your contemporaries.For me it was always - I really wanted to live! When you've worked with bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Nicks and the Eagles, it's not a strange thing to be interviewed. And when it happens, its certainly a big deal. You know, I probably squandered a lot of good time. I was so vibed. Tom Petty has had too many hits for some critics to be fully comfortable with him. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. Other guys in the band were going like [growling], "Nobody lets me sleep anymore. I didnt need to be that way. Youre at Pettys house at a Christmas party. But, in his own way, he said, I just dont want to go back there. But you know, no matter how much shit I give any of those guys or they can give me, there were some great lessons learned in how to grow up with people. A fun chat with my old friend and original drummer with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, the great Stan Lynch. He didnt want it to be authorized because he felt like authorized meant bull-, says Warren Zanes, whose Petty: The Biography arrives next month. Lynch joined his former bandmates during their induction ceremony for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. All I know is that I have very selective memory about the whole experience, very positive. I have regrets. I didnt talk to the Bogdanovich people, Lynch says. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. The presence of a Beatle is a thick presence. And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. Now which one is it? Apart from the enduring work he crafted with the Heartbreakers, Lynch's stage and studio credits as a drummer also include the likes of Bob Dylan, Don Henley, Aretha Franklin, The Eurythmics, Roger McGuinn, Stevie Nicks, Del Shannon, T-Bone Burnett, and Warren Zevon. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. Yeah, you tank. By submitting, you agree to receive communications (emails & texts) from Modern Drummer. srlynch@stanford.edu. It's inside your navel, man. . 'Cause I want to sign bands that are legitimately talented. It's like, Mick needs Keith. Since leaving the Heartbreakers, Lynch has gone on to become a successful producer and songwriter, performing those duties with Henley, the Mavericks, Ringo Starr, Matraca Berg, Toto and many others. In what ways do you think that the business is easier, and in what ways do you think it's harder for artists starting out now than it was when you started?Well it's easier because it's an accepted form of livelihood. He decided whatever I was doing he wasnt digging. There was a time when they were so glib and articulate, it really was like being around the Marx Brothers or something. I've heard talk about taking the best of the 1997 Fillmore. Stan Lynch, the band's longtime drummer, who eventually quit in 1994, is unsurprisingly the most critical of Petty. From Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello. That's that old story, by the time you figure that out, they're on to something else anyway. I mean, there were days when I was bitter about it, I thought, "Oh, man, I should be Keith Moon!" For puttin' up with that - God bless 'em! And I cant tell you what you can and cant write., Oct. 2017: Tom Petty on life support after cardiac arrest, according to reports, The result is a penetrating profile in which Petty opens up for the first time about his heroin addiction, something he had sliced out of Peter Bogdanovichs four-hour documentary, 2007s Runnin Down a Dream. Zanes also coaxed Stan Lynch, the ex-drummer of Pettys longtime backing band, The Heartbreakers, to talk unflinchingly about his falling-out with Petty. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. And he was still on that tour. It'd be so frightening if your life really hung on that balance, on that fulcrumlike if I was actually sitting here going, "God, the demographic of people that buy records is, uhhh, 18 to 24! In Pettys interviews with Zanes, he was as forthright and honest as he is in his songs, talking about his abusive father, his failed marriage, and his heroin use. Stan Lynch - Modern Drummer Magazine Features Stan Lynch It's been thirty years since he recorded with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. But you follow your gut on that one. Jeff [Lynne] is a constructionist from the Brian. Is there an example of Stan Lynch being behind the beat on a Tom Petty song? Born. Also: recaps of my international speaking engagements and pop culture oral histories featuring beloved figures of books, music, TV, and movies who rarely if ever have been interviewed. I never knew how it got there, but it sure wasnt left over from the night before. ', Editors picks Sep 18, 2019 #32 John DeChristopher DFO Veteran. And I'd probably fire 90% of the A&R staff for hiring them. This is the birth of the Wilburys. Id never learned anyone elses parts., He started going over the material at his home studio, and he turned to longtime drummer buddies Kenny Aronoff and Gregg Bissonette for advice. And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! I sat down at the drums and I didnt know whether to cry or barf. Zanes spoke by telephone about Petty.. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakershad been off the road for nearly a year when the 1994 Bridge School Benefit came around. Pick up the May 2008 issue of Modern Drummer at music stores, book stores, and newsstands everywhere! And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. The behind-the-scenes look at my books, from research adventures to promotion gambles. That 20 minutes turned into two days and eight hours. 2023 Cond Nast. I know what youre feeling, so get on a plane. So I did. I mean I'd say thatjoy and curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness. It still blows my mind that that shit that I remember cutting like it was last week is still somehowviewed asREAL! The idea for a new unauthorized Tom Petty biography came from a surprising source: Tom Petty. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. The guy's a fucking hardcore, he lives and eats it, he's destined to be who he is! That's when you've hit the real essence of collaboration, where you know you've found your partner. The other guys might have had a little more expectation, so there was more disappointment for them. But it must be more difficult for the person who's been successful for a long time on their own terms, and then all of a sudden something fails.Yeah, you don't sell records. Location. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. That's when it fell apart with Stan." The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with. Stan Lynch page 2.jpg. What do you think are the biggest pitfalls on the road to success, and after you become successful?The biggest pitfalls on the way to success: disillusionment and panic when you're so close. This is the first time Im talking about it in any depth.. If you, at 45 now, were to run into yourself at 20, what advice would you give to yourself?Whew! They held on trying to keep that band together. When he gets married, its the same thing. The Del Fuegos were originally an Oberlin band that Dan Zanes, Warrens older brother, started with some college friends; Warren joined after Andover. Date:circa 2000Interviewer: Lee FlierInterviewee: Stan LynchNotes: I found this when browsing an old capture of MusicPlayer.com from the Wayback Machine. I didn't know that there were good and bad ways to make it. What do you do in that situation?I think the real question then would be: what are you in it for? Hi! Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. I was very grateful. Where the world's greatest drummer meet. Right now, Campbell and the Dirty Knobs are on a brief break before returning to the road in late May for another long string of shows that includes stints opening for Chris Stapleton and the Who at arenas and even a few stadiums. And he did it very respectfully. Stan Lynch was the original drummer for The Heartbreakers. The list goes on, but this'll get you started! There's actually channels for this. And drummers tend to be, the big loud rock drummers tend to be that way in personality. And I watched really excited people get more excited, and it was just a big amplifier. Because the problem is when you're young, it's make or break. His only encounter with Petty in the years that followed took place in 2002 at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, and the only communication he can recall from guitarist Mike Campbell in the two decades since that night was a brief phone call in 2017 shortly after Petty died. Just think of Breakdowns slinky pulse, the graceful fills that usher in the heavenly chorus in Here Comes My Girl, or the swamp-funk groove of his 1993 Heartbreakers swan song Mary Janes Last Dance.. Within twenty-four hours, I was talking to Don and he said, Man, what are you doing? And you just let him go. Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. Its like a part of my life Ive actuallyI wont say forgotten, because I actually still dream about it. This was unsettling for everyone in the group besides Campbell, who worked extensively on the album, but Lynch voiced his objections the loudest. But if you changed you'd be compromising what you've been all about. And I thought, Okay well, youre being paid like its main gig. I had a feeling that the dough was the only reason he hadnt walked off yet.. It doesn't mean that they suck; it means that that particular season they were reading the pitches all wrong! Im really proud of the legacy. 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