Whereas CFE BLK proved to be an excellent choice for the two 17 Hornets, shot-to-shot velocity spread was quite high when it was asked to burn in the roomier case of the 17 Fireball. I'm getting 3700fps (3/8" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 Classic and 3670fps (1/4" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 BDL. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 77 loads. It would quickly become the benchrest shooting champion until the PPC cartridges appeared in 1974. When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. Patrick. Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. 17 MACH IV. Ill save those bullets for my .17 Hornet. The neck of the case will be shorter than on cases formed from .22 Hornet brass, but accuracy is the same and flickertails dont seem to mind. I first pulled bullets and dumped powder. Shooting this series during March, Id have to await sunshine to allow employing a standard chronograph to begin testing. Like: H4350, H4831 SC, VV N550 & N160. models. The 17 Mach IV was designed by Vern O'Brien, Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1962. When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. A note on cleaningsince this will be mentioned in any reloading manual or article about the caliber. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. Im betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. | Hodgdon lists as little as 0.3 grain between minimum and maximum powder charges for the .17 Hornady. For shooting varmints like prairie dogs or ground squirrels, the 20-grain bullets are hard to beat. As mentioned, the .17 was first brought to market with a 25-grain Power Lokt Hollow Point. And accuracy improved with a shorter jump in my handloads. My most accurate 222 rem. Price: $280 to $350-ish Rem. If striking a bone on impact they will absolutely detonatenot only potentially ruining a valuable hide, but also creating a superficial wound that is not immediately lethal and will leave animals to suffersomething all hunters try to avoid. The Best of both worlds: After nearly 4 years of waiting, Dan Wesson's DWX is here. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. When using that primer in this cartridge, it is important to begin with a starting load and keep a close eye on fired primer condition while carefully working up. Ackleys load data lists 25-grain bullets with a velocity of 3,585 fps from 12.0 grains of 4198 and 3,570 fps from 11.5 grains of 4227. It took Remington until 2008 to adopt the cartridge. Depending on the size of the cartridge case housing the tiny bullets, performance ranges from mostly suitable for rodents inside 200 yards to deadly on bigger predators out to 400 yards. There are a wide variety of custom makers that currently sell various configurations of hollowpoints and even softpoints in .17 calibera quick search on the net will show the way. All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. #1 Lilja barrel shipped 2 days ago. Longer stick propellants can bridge when flowing through purpose-designed .17 caliber powder dispensing equipment, and for this reason I always weigh my charges carefully and inspect the charged cases prior to the bullet seating operation. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. One in the chamber and another in the magazine makes it a two-shooter. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. For years, the powder in the .17 Rem. Nosler unprimed brass and Federal Premium Gold Medal 205 Match Small Rifle primers were used throughout. It ends up with a shorter neck than a case formed from 22 Hornet brass, but prairie dogs dont seem to mind, and accuracy does not suffer. He was a college professor, a gifted machinist, a writer, a barrel maker, a bullet maker, a builder of rifles and an avid experimenter. Primers open another interesting can of worms. The reason the author made the first .17 caliber was the result of a deal with the late C.H. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. Today, they are down to one offeringa 25-grain Varmint Hollowpointand its a very accurate projectile. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. Still, extreme velocity spreads ranged from 104 to 368 fps with IMR-4227, 142 fps with Reloder 7 and 162 fps with H-4198 shooting 20-grain bullets. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. . 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If the owner of that first rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet were still here, he would likely be tickled to see a load with his favorite powder slightly better the accuracy of CFE BLK. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. I was curious to see how Hornadys factory load would perform in my SSK Industries rifle. The .17 Hornet (left) looks like a larger version of the .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (right). Blackout loads were extrapolated from .221 Fireball loads tested before, velocities indicating these loads came out about right, with velocities mirroring other powder choices. According to my measurements, its gravimetric density is 0.980 gram per cubic centimeter, the same as for water. It is based on a necked-down .223 Remington case and uses a .172 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those looking for small-caliber performance with minimal recoil. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. Lately, I have been experimenting with a 30-grain HPBT from a custom maker in Virginia, Don Unmussig. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. The next 10, not so much. Accurate: AAC-2460: Subscribe: 3741: Remarks: 20: Hornady V-Max: Accurate: AAC-2460 . Last but certainly not least, the ability of CFE BLK to reduce copper fouling in barrels gives it a big edge for high-volume shooting of prairie dogs, ground squirrels, and other varmints. Using 18.5-, 19- and 19.5-grain charges of Ramshot X-Terminator produced .28-, .31- and .68-inch groups at 3,583, 3,687 and 3,809 fps, respectively, with a 1.81-inches OAL. Pressures generated in Hodgdons pressure barrel for an 18.0-grain charge behind those two bullet weights was only 33,500 and 35,700 CUP respectively. The 20-grain bullet of Hornady factory ammunition had to free-travel 0.102 inch prior to rifling engagement. Like those bullets, the Sierra 40- and 45-grain Hornets expand on varmints quite nicely, but since they do not have flat noses, no more than one should be loaded in the tubular magazine of a lever-action rifle. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The best groups resulted from 18 grains of N133 (.66 inch at 3,822 fps, including very low extreme velocity spreads), a 19 grain maximum load of IMR-8308 XBR (.73-inch at 3,874 fps) and 16 grains of LT-30 (.75 inch at 3,622 fps). He admitted to being stuck in his ways and did very little changing. It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. When it comes to choosing a primer, it and the 17 Ackley Hornet can be finicky from rifle to rifle. The Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint test rifles included a heavy (.82 inch at muzzle) 26-inch barrel and held a Swarovski Optik 3.5-28x50 P scope set atop Precision Hardcore Gears Tru-Level Picatinny rail. A proprietary hollowpoint design makes these bullets explosive on varmints, the lead-free composition making them relatively long for weight. Precision Redding full-length Type S Match Dies with .195-inch titanium nitride sizing bushing and micro-adjustable seating-die head were used. The .17 Remington requires consistent cleaning. Hodgdon LilGun is the powder for the .17. The .204 Ruger is essentially a .222 Remington Magnum case necked to accept .204-inch bullets, which results in 32- and 40-grain bullets being advertised at 4,225 fps . Most folks think that Gaston Glock introduced pistols with plastic . Two calibers stand out among those of .17-diameter ilk, although others of newer design may outstrip them in the future. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 7 Top .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Ruger No. Of rimfire design, it's ideal for prairie dogs, potgut gophers and most of the smaller furbearers out to a couple of hundred yards. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. An additional 0.5 grain of LilGun increased the velocity of 20-grain bullets by 198 fps. At 3,900 to 4,000 fps these bullets will typically enter a furbearer with a tiny pinprick and completely dissipate inside the animal. Either powder is an excellent choice for P.O. I have tried just about every bullet made. The rifle weighs right at 7 pounds with a Turkish walnut stock and a Burris 10x scope. Lot-to-lot powder variations do exist and in a cartridge this small, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity. Our .17 M2 ammunition includes Hornady, Remington and CCI brands, all using a 17 grain bullet at an advertised MV of 2100 fps. That meshes closely with Hornadys 200-yard zero figures: +1.1 inches at 100 yards and -6.40 inches at 300 yards. Possibly more germane, I was unable to clean the barrel as often as I would have liked during testing, my pull-through bore snake was too short to fish through the 26-inch barrel. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. The .17 Remington was originally introduced with 25 grain bullets, and for this middle weight, most of the powders that work well in a 22-250 or 308 work quite well. bullet will surprise you also. Those are not huge differences in bullet drop and drift between the two bullet diameters, although the .22s do deliver more energy to the target. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. According to the story, OBrien wagered that his guide could not kill the bear with his rifle in .17 Mach IVand lost the bet. During fire-forming the case will headspace on its rim and the shoulder will be moved forward to the Ackley position. Chances are, if theyre a shooter, they have a .17-caliber rifle tucked away someplace. In the .17s I have worked with, the CCI BR-4 has given me the most consistent accuracybut your results may vary. Great velocity with 25 grainers but poor accuracy. OBrien also offered custom XP-100 pistols chambered for his cartridge, and the barrels were marked .17 Mach III to indicate lower velocity in the shorter barrel. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. The CZ 527 and Hornady factory loads combined for this 200-yard group. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. bullet. The Gunsmith should have the rifle in my hot little hands in about 2 weeks. His most successful wildcat, the .17 Hornet Improved, requires an RCBS die set for forming the case. When preparing loads for the Marlin rifle, I started with two flatnose bullets: the Hornady 45-grain hollowpoint and the Speer 46-grain softnose. Give a Gift The Judge has been promoted! But like most rifles in 22 Hornet, the barrels of those in 218 Bee have a rifling twist of 1:16 inches, which is not quick enough to stabilize many of the bullets listed for this cartridge in various reloading manuals. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Well guys, winter is upon us and I am in dire need to try out a few new loads getting ready for the spring time ground squirrel ritual. Not only that, but it is also stable in a 1:9 twist, which has become the standard in the caliber (from the original 1:10). at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. The Nosler 20-grain bullet was happiest at 0.015 inch. Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. Berger set a terrific tone for .17 caliber bullets with a wide range of bulletsvariously producing bullets as light as 15 grains and as heavy as 37 grains (which require a very fast twist). (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). The .17 Remington requires consistent cleaning. This little gem was introduced originally by Remington in 1971, though similar wildcats had undoubtedly existed for many years prior. H414/W760 behind a 30gr. 71/2 and 24 gr of 4320 under a 25 gr bullet gives me 3900 from a 22 inch barrel and is 1/4 -1/2 inch accuracy. The powder weights for all the loads but one listed in the table were weighed as precisely as I could on a balance scale. Hodgdons listing of 18.0 grains of CFE BLK as maximum for 30- and 35-grain bullets needs clarification. . Reiber's load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. The Sierra 40-grain Hornet is also quite good. Unfortunately, it did not turn in a noteworthy group with this bullet. In addition to delivering much lower velocity spreads, accuracy was better with IMR 4198 and H335. A steadily mounting accumulation of data makes the following list possible. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. leaves the others choking on its dust. I prefer 20-grain bullets in the .17 Hornets because they can be pushed much faster than 25-grain bullets. If you look at a burn rate chart and published reloading data, you will see other powders that are closeReloder 15, IMR4064, Varget, VV N-140, and H4895 are commonly referenced. During my youth, I shot a custom single-shot rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet built on a Winchester Model 1885 action belonging to one of my fathers hunting pals. 23.5 grn. It varied among the three bullets tried. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. Although overall cartridge length is restricted to about 1.950 inches, there is still more than enough room to seat bullets close to the rifling should doing so be necessary or desired. The Berger 25-grain bullet preferred 0.010 inch. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. Copyright 2005, 2017 by ChuckHawks.com. In todays guise, benefitting of more modern manufacturing methods, propellants, a better understanding of twist rates, and cleaning procedures and products, the .17 really shines within its niche. Tested on 75 & 80 degree days with no pressure problems.. It's just a GREAT load for the 17 Remington.. CCI-450 Primers 26.0grs IMR 4007SCC Like I said, different rifles, different preferences in primers. Give a Gift at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. The .17 Remington Fireball introduced a few years ago is a somewhat larger edition of the .17 Hornet, but the Fireball is less than trendy. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. My most accurate loading/Rifle is a rare Remington 700 VSS with the factory 26" heavy stainless barrel. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooter's Choice are all smart investments. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. Slightly compressed charges often deliver the lowest shot-to-shot variations in velocity, while dropping much below 90 percent can result in high velocity spreads. I have some 25 grain Calhoon .17 bullets that I have been saving for a while. : 4,638 4,917 Press. A friend of mine has two custom rifles in 17 Hornet, and accuracy from one is best with the Remington 6, while the other prefers the Winchester WSR. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy, How to Clean a Rifle Barrel the Effective and Harmless Way, 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. Hornadys 20-grain Z-MAX is the same as the V-MAX in every way, except the polymer tip is Zombie green instead of Hornady red. The first one was chambered for the so-called .17 Pee Wee, which was simply the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .17, and the first rifle was built . maximum average pressure for the 218 Bee is 40,000 CUP. The new case most likely is shorter so it can be loaded with relatively long and pointed Hornady 20- and 25-grain V-MAX bullets and still retain the same 1.723-inch overall cartridge length of the .22 Hornet. I got to know Ackley while he was doing some rifle work for me during the 1960s and 70s. The most accurate loads have been with the Hornady 20gn and 25gn V-Max bullet which turned in 3-shot groups averaging .50-MoA. The heavier bullets had much lower extreme spreads, with 43 to 45 fps for the 25-grain bullets and 30 to 66 fps for the 30-grain bullets. sierra Gameking , AOL. An additional 0.8 grain of the powder increased velocity by 237 fps. My old pet load for my 17 BDL was with IMR 4320 with 25 Berger Match HP. Believe me, this is important as this small-caliber case does generate significant pressure and piercing or blowing primers is a real possibility at excessive pressures. Respective starting charge weights for those two bullets are 15.8 and 15.3 grains. It is my fathers favorite rat rifle and I was able to borrow it only because it was during the off-season. A newer powder that shows great promise is StaBall 6.5not only is it temperature insensitive and spherical (which makes charging cases easier), it is fast. True enthusiasts tend to advise infrequent cleaning of rimfire versions simply to avoid potentially damaging the rifling (and because the rimfire versions just don't leave much fouling) and extreme care in cleaning centerfire versions. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. I began my shooting tests by using Barnes CR-10 solvent to ensure no copper fouling lurked in the barrels of the test guns. However, maximum powder charges for the .17 Ackley are 0.2 to 0.7 grain heavier than for the .17 Hornady. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. BP-B2. The Remington case is about 0.006 inch larger in diameter at its body/shoulder juncture, and its head-space dimension is about 0.004 inch longer. Using bullets from Hornady V-Max, Hornady V-Max or HP. The S.A.A.M.I. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. Hornady Custom Grade full-length dies were used to size and load the .17s. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. Other rifles might disagree. More reliable bullets allowed .17-caliber rounds like the RFB to be run at 4,000-plus feet per second (fps) without worry of poor terminal performance. CFE BLK shined, with 16 grains of powder producing a .45-inch group at 3,792 fps, and a maximum load of 17 grains printing .50 inch at 4,091 fps. Norma 200, 55gr. While the 17 Fireball is about 300 fps slower with all bullet weights than the 17 Remington, it is probably more popular today because it burns about 20 percent less powder with each squeeze of the trigger. Open sights are standard, and the receiver is grooved for common rimfire scope rings. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. of benchmark with a Rem 7.5 primer Formed by necking down Remington's .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, O'Brien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. While perusing the CFE BLK data I received from Hodgdon, I felt a bit disappointed by the absence of my favorite ground squirrel atomizer in that cartridge: the Berger 30-grain hollowpoint. Sizing bushings are interchangeable and available in .001-inch increments, allowing just-right neck tensioning to accommodate specific chambers (a micrometer is used to measure outside neck diameter of a loaded cartridge and .001-inch subtracted). Very accurate and fast in Remington 700 BDL sporter xswanted Gold $$ Contributor Feb 22, 2017 #6 I tried it. Subscriber Services. Robust, accurate and without expense-increasing frills, the XT-17 comes with a 22-inch barrel in your choice of stainless or blued, with walnut or synthetic stock. He has been fooling with the 17R since the year it came out. His bullets are also exceptionalnot only accurate, but very effective terminally. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. And CFE BLK does have several advantages over those two propellants. As much as I like LilGun in the 221 Fireball, I have to admit CFE BLK has pushed it to second place on my preference chart. Reloder 7 did its best with a maximum load of 16.5 grains; .53 inch at 4,039. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. At least not inside of 300 yards. LilGun delivered much lower extreme spreads of 45 to 69 fps. It would not go 20 rounds without overheating the barrel and experiencing velocity excursions. The same charge with 20-grain V-MAXes started out with an even tighter group, but I flipped out the bullet from the fourth shot, which enlarged the group to 1.09 inches at 100 yards. Most .17 caliber bullets are much lighter than those of .22 caliber, and that makes them greatly dependent on high velocities for quick kills on varmints. I have also done a lot of work with the Federal 205 and 205 Match, and these primers also work wellbut will also start to flatten and can pierce more easily than the first three mentioned. All Rights Reserved. In the course of our rifle reviews we ordinarily test for accuracy using as many different loads as possible and tabulate the results. Nitroglycerine content makes them double-base propellants. The Hammer 18 grain Dead Blow and Nosler 20 grain Varmageddon bullets deserve further experimentation, as I obviously didnt do my part though I did demonstrate what didnt work, which is something. The .17 Fireball easily breaks 4,000 fps with 20-grain bullets and only 17 to 20 grains of powder. Hornady HP. Joined: Dec 2015. With the case shoulder bumped back and bullets reseated, it averaged 0.64 inch for five, five-shot groups at 100 yards. My LabRadar, which allows meeting deadlines during the endless overcast days of a northern Idaho winter, will not record speeds exceeding 4,000 fps. It attained the second highest velocities with 20-grain bullets and the highest velocities with 25-grain bullets. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. The new RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol from Rock Island Armory features a patented RVS Recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give shooters super soft recoil. In testing the ability of the powder to Erase Copper Fouling, Reiber fired a 467-round string during the varmint shoot with no cleaning, except for occasional dry-brushing to sweep out powder fouling. Its case is 1.796 inches long and while many assert that its nothing more than a .223 necked to .17, a quick examination of the cases clearly demonstrates that this is not so. Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Zippy 25-grain projectiles exit the muzzle in excess of a jaw-dropping 4,000 fps. . A 9.5-grain charge of LilGun shot five 20-grain Bergers in .78 inch at 100 yards. Seventeen-caliber cartridges have always fascinated a certain group of handloaders for some mystical reason. High density is especially important when loading small-capacity cartridges. Velocities from pressure barrels are usually higher than velocities from off-the-shelf rifles, but in this case it was quite close at 3,836 fps. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. Possibly one of the best varmint load - consistently under 1/4" at 100 yards is 75 grain Sierra (Speer and Remington shoot well too) with 58 grains IMR4350. Colt Model 1861 Special Musket: What's Its Value? If theyre a shooter, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity have been with the C.H! 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