Modern View Forum powered by phpBB 2001, 2005 phpBB Group. The 150psi trans pump doesn't raise the 3pt hitch. If I was looking at this time, I would make the jump to a4450 minimum. It tests at 113 drawbar and 130 PTO horsepower. The QR tranny "just worked" for us. "datePublished": "2021-03-10", I ran power quads not quad ranges . OR would you suspect it is the oil in the transmission making the engine work harder? The John Deere 4440 has a torque rating of 260 lb.-ft., and its PTO (power take-off) is rated at 220 hp. Dont over-inflate the tire. One is a problem with the hydraulic system. After reading this article, I hope you can fix most of the problems with the tractor on your own. Free shipping. Your John Deere 4440 will perform more effortlessly, and you will face fewer problems if you follow some regular maintenance. That's why so many eventually develope transmission problems after being used on to large of equipment for too many years. While it is out I am going to change the water pump. Power shift between pairs 1-2 and 3-4 in each range, with synchronized shift between 2-3. I'd have to agree with you but I can't work on new stuff ! Conclusion However, going back to the beginning here, if the clutch apply pressure IS dropping to zero with the pedal depressed and the clutch is dragging there HAS to be something wrong with the clutch itself. If I were to buy another, it would be a 4450. Working everyday. Refilling transmission and hydraulic fluid regularly fix the most transmission and hydraulic-related problems. Talked to a guy about it today he said he has 15 4430s and a couple 4440s . It didn't kill us. I did not mention the fan already has a strap on it. The John Deere 4430 was succeeded by the John Deere 4440 in 1976. . Not sure how this could of happened if pressures are good but I have seen this and it was on a 4440 that operator slipped clutch for a solid 8 hour day running a snow blower and he did manage to burn it up. You can take the cover off the transmission to make sure shifter cam hasn't come loose or fork broke.Have seen that happen also but the synchro are high wear . is a common complaint from these tractor owners. (7 Problems + Solutions), Why Wont My Peppers Turn Red (5 Reasons Explained), Female Pumpkin Flowers Dying Before Opening (7 Reasons). Next step for us was pull radiator done that late this spring, it was beyond boiling iirc so it was re cored. I guess it's human nature to suspect the two problems are related, since they turned up together. If corroded, clean them with a corrosion cleaner. Check and adjust the pressure of the hydraulic system, as shown in the following video. "@type": "ImageObject", Split it and look at the clutch, the plates will be worn and warped,,not unusual on a tractor this old, the checks on the plates will shell off,change the operating piston seals too. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. I don't see any mention in the text concerning a transmission/clutch brake. Last spring, we had a sender issue: oil pressure sender. I am looking for some help on a question with a 4430 john deere. Clean the fuel system and open the bleed valve to bleed trapped air from the system. Refilling transmission and hydraulic fluid regularly fix the most transmission and hydraulic-related problems. Own at this time 1 -4440, 3-4450s, 6-4455s & a few more (20 I think) other tractors. +1, quad-deranged tractors are terrible, 8 spd's don't have enough gears, I personally wouldn't own anything green without the 15 spd power shift in it. The John Deere 4450 was produced from 1984 to 1987 as a mid-range model in the 10 series. And with a 158 John Deere front-end loader, its capacity is 3800 pounds. Other than a bit updated interior, its basically a 4440. Remove the fuel valve and clean it properly. I am not saying it is not a good solid tractor. I have ran powershiffs not any quad ranges . If the hydraulic oil is spoiled, change it and refill the reservoir. Yes the pressure drops to zero with the pedal down. The 4440 was definitely more iconic, but it did have its shortcomings. ", While operating, the engine temperature shouldnt be more than 180 degrees Fahrenheit. I guess I omitted that point when I typed it over. Now, the oil is set. Check the starter motors solenoid, pioneer gear, and other components. After that, check the transmission bearing and lubricate them. "name": "Harry In Ky" A 4640 only has 133 drawbar factory. To submit yours, email it to Peter@TractorData.com. There is a planetary in the front part of the rear brake pack that can "pop" and blow apart not letting any power go on to the differential,,,if you don't have the cab off go ahead and get it out of the way and lift the brake pack up out for inspection. If the problem persists, its always best to consult a professional who can diagnose and repair the issue. Using incorrect oil, oil leakage, worn-out piston rings, damaged valve stems, and scuffed cylinder liners are reasons for high oil consumption. Check the seals for any signs of wear or damage. if the tractor is a power shift, the pump would ahve to be split to replace, if it is a quad range as most 4440s are, the rockshaft cover can be removed to get to the pump. $75.99. Replace the broken or worn-out parts. The John Deere 4440 is a powerful tractor. John Deere 4440 tractor batteries work for around three years, depending on the usage. I know the 500-510 backhoes had that design.. A small lever by the right final drive at trans case.. John Deere 4440 attachments front-end loader Attachment details . The tractor has 8000 hours and these components are original. Consult official And gradually, other oil-related problems will occur, including transmission noise and low oil pressure. Shift Pattern We are removing the radiator this weekend. thanks joe. I love quads, but I would like an 82 power shift, just for the collectability. If the coolant temperature is low, idle the tractor to warm up the engine before driving. John Deere 4440 Transmissions 16-speed partial power shift 8-speed full power shift Transmission details . There is a 4500 hr 4440 by me, and it's showroom. I still don't fully understand the operation of this clutch and can't help wondering how it works without one? Your email address will not be published. Change the fuel filter as described above. Moreover, lubricate all the fittings. He won't work on anything past a 50 series . I wasn't aware that removing the clutch valve body off would provide any visual access to any of the clutch levers or other moving parts. I know a few that have some gears out of their quad ranges . Check the transmission oil cooler for any signs of clogging or damage. }, Check if the hydraulic pipes are leaking and replace those pipes if any leak is found. I have no chance to push it down. Yes there's some overspray on the tires . It feels like the pedal is stuck. That is an 81 or 82 but it has been a loader tractor - step moved back. } If found broken or scurried, replace it. Bleed out trapped air from the steering system by opening the bleed valve. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Your hydraulic fluid is not the problem. If its damaged, replace the fuel injector. John Deere 4440 Transmission Overview Engine Transmission Dimensions Photos Tests Attachments 1978 - 1982 Iron Horses Series Row-Crop tractor Series map: 4450 1983-1988 4240 4440 4640 122.2hp 144.4hp 172.2hp 4430 1973-1977 Transmissions overview 16-speed partial power shift 8-speed full power shift Speeds With 18.4-38 rear tires. How do I go about it? ", If any damage is found, replace the valve. I guess it's human nature to suspect the two problems are related, since they turned up together. Low hydraulic oil pressure warning light showing is a common problem that tractor owners of John Deere 4440 often face. Good luck, I hope you get a good one. Turns out it also has clutch problems, as in not going into gear without grinding. 2. Remember the Range shift ABCD is not synchronized and requires coming to a stop before shifting. Both of these problems happen due to the same reasons. The coolant capacity of John Deere 4440 is 36 qts. in.) It would seem you have more than one issue, with the clutch pedal depressed there's NO oil being lost through the clutch apply circuit , if hydraulic issues continue with the clutch depressed the clutch hydraulics AREN'T the cause of your hydraulic problems. Check for compression leaks into the radiator. Always felt like it came to a complete stop and then the back wheels came off the ground grabbing the next gear. R42444 Pinion Gear Fits John Deere Tractors 4440, 7520, 8430, 8440, 8630. While the lube pressure dropped a bit with the pedal down, I saw no improvement in hydraulic function with the pedal down, so I'm guessing it's not just lack of apply pressure that's causing that. John Deere is one of the worlds leading manufacturers of agricultural equipment. "height": 57 The first step is to check the hydraulic pressure generated by the transmission pump. This is a power shift transmission and has a loader on the tractor. Change the oil every 200 hours of operation or as required. Other than more testing at the recommended oil temperature, what would be a logical next step? After posting I found the specs on the oil. Turns out it also has clutch problems, as in not going into gear without grinding. This model was succeeded by the John Deere 4520 in 1978. 5. you should now see a plug I think its about 1 2/8 or 1 1/4 remove this. Remember to always consult the service manual for your tractor and if the problem persists, its best to consult a professional. Remove the steering column and check if it is broken or worn out. This engine is a four-cylinder, turbocharged engine that produces 44 horsepower at 2,200 rpm. Apparently not. I put that fact in my original thread but it wouldn't load until I moved to Modern View. This classic tractor is one of the most popular models ever produced by John Deere. Ok, the tarp strap keeping the battery box side on I have never seen. If the rings are found broken or worn out, change them. (12049214_10153996448564036_2957668284773063204_n.jpg), Edited by havin'funfarming 11/18/2016 20:49, 12049214_10153996448564036_2957668284773063204_n.jpg. If I were to buy another, it would be a 4450. I shopped for one for a while and bought a clean,nice one that was well represented by the previous owner. It has been running warmer than normal. Isn't that the truth. Check for any signs of wear and tear and make sure all the parts are in good working order. Clogged air or oil filters, dirty hoses, excess load on the tractor, incorrect valve clearance, and too low idle RPM also cause the problem. Start new topic; Recommended Posts. { All the hydraulics work and the pto works too. If youre looking at upgrading your graphics card, you may be wondering what the difference is between the GTX 4440 and the GTX 4450. Hey there. Inspect the backlash and make sure they are correctly adjusted. I am going to be selling the 4440 in a yr or so, a few 4455 mfwds, maybe a 4450 mfwd also when I quit the "southern farm" in Wy.. 4440s are ok, 4450s are good, the 4455s were DAMM good.. Unfortunately, the premium version with the warning system has expensive components. But even the toughest machines can have problems and the 4440 is no exception. Have both quads and powershifts on our farm, don't think much about it switching back and forth. If they are worn out, replace them. Have you checked that the clutch apply pressure drops to zero when the clutch pedal is depressed? Check the steering fluid level and refill it if necessary. On the red side for actual use I wouldn't consider anything IH made before the 88 series. Photos John Deere 4440 photos. Now, check all the parts of the hydraulic cylinder. Clean the reservoir area with a washcloth and open the cap. Inspect and replace the hydraulic spool valve if found in bad shape. Every Check every 10 hours or daily. Part. Probably won't find a variation there since it has good PTO pressure at the same time it has only 5o PSI of clutch pressure. Most likely failed / burnt up and or warped plates. Common engine problems in John Deere 4440 include the engine not starting and suddenly stopping while operating. But it would be nice to know where my dad 4440 is at now. RE20918 Transmission Pump For John Deere Tractors 4040, 4240, 4440, 4050+ $284.00. Also, the traditional head gasket test is to let a tractor cool off completely, which is kinda hard in this weather, then remove radiator cap, and start tractor up. 2. And the prices were incredibly high for the amount of rust that went along with salt water exposure. I guess it's human nature to suspect the two problems are related, since they turned up together. It has a core clock speed of 1.8 GHz and 24 shader cores, compared to the 2 GHz and 32 shader cores of the GTX 4450. JohnDeereStore Homepage. If the transmission seal is damaged or scurried, it will leak oil. If nothing works, the cylinder pressure compression must be low. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. 4th was too slow for most work, 5th was too fast if you ran full throttle. He said couple are junk couple he'd buy . Your hydraulic fluid is not the problem. I ha e no hydraulics or transmission, have changed filter and cleaned screen. Broken piston rings need to be changed. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", 4. I split it thinking the input shaft broke right behind the trans pump but that all looks good. Try lubricating the cable. [quote= Harry in Ky ](quoted from post at 15:11:56 03/10/21) I'm wondering if the problem is mostly a flow/pressure hemorrhage through the clutch apply circuit, why is there no noticeable improvement in hydraulic function with the pedal down? In some cases, it may even be impossible to use the machine at all. By keeping your John Deere 4430 transmission in good condition, you can ensure that it will provide reliable power and smooth operation. If its clogged, clean it with a. Close the drain plug and refill the transmission oil reservoir with the right type of oil. I have had a 4240 with the same symptoms,and it was the disc. Clean it with a washcloth and corrosion cleaner. . I don't mean to be negative but I assume you want honest feedback. Never really knew anybody had any problems with power shifts . Inspect the main relief valve. Park your tractor on a level surface and set the parking brake. . Simple, straightforward, had lots of useful speeds for most everything we did. Check for coolant in your engine oil as well, on dip stick. Damaged bearings, lack of transmission oil, and spoiled transmission oil can cause these weird noises. That's cool, your dad ordered it the day I was born! What ever needs to be done . Dont ignore any unusual noise from your tractor. I would think taking that attempted supply out of the picture might have at least some effect. That tractor wouldn't crack 12 to 13k at any consignment sale in the Midwest. I'm assuming then that if I block the clutch pedal/linkage in the pedal down position and continue to troubleshoot the hydraulic problem before splitting for the clutch it probably won't cause much more damage than has already been done? Furthermore, incorrect backlash, worn gears, and defective shift forks can be the reasons. Two reverses in ranges A-C. Tractor must be stopped, and clutch used, to shift ranges. Problem 3: Engine Stops Immediately After Starting. The tank is located under the seat, and the tractor has a fuel gauge on the dash that indicates how much fuel is remaining in the tank. Its easy to say go newer since you get better features. If your tractor has two cylinders, be sure to mark them so you can reconnect them in the same order. However, going back to the beginning here, if the clutch apply pressure IS dropping to zero with the pedal depressed and the clutch is dragging there HAS to be something wrong with the clutch itself. 4450 and newer without question. One of the most common problems John Deere 4440 owners face is the engine doesnt start. . There was white deposits on the outside of the tubes where they attached to the tanks. John Deere 4440 is one of the most successful ones in this series. Thanks. Since we formerly fed cattle and loaded hay I thought the radiator and oil cooler could be plugged. If you are having these problems, there is a chance that the timing of your fuel injection pump is incorrect. If the oil level is low, you need to refill this. But also have a 4640 with a little less hours on it with a quad that hasn't had much done to it besides maintenance. the 3 point and the remote outlets chatter when using them. If the harness is broken, replace it. I guess I omitted that point when I typed it over. If the oil level and oil filter are fine, the relief valve must be checked. Check if the hutch rock shaft is damaged. That's a pet peeve of mine. Both of these problems happen for the same reasons. Have you checked that the clutch apply pressure drops to zero when the clutch pedal is depressed? Any suggestions? John Deere 4430 transmission problems can be frustrating and disrupt your work. The John Deere 4440 was produced from 1982 to 1987. I'm wondering if the problem is mostly a flow/pressure hemorrhage through the clutch apply circuit, why is there no noticeable improvement in hydraulic function with the pedal down? Moreover, broken or filthy fuel injectors and pumps and low pressure on cylinder compression are reasons that will cause your tractor engine not to start. . Bad spark plugs, faulty ignition switch clogged carburetor and fuel filter, bad battery, etc can be the main causes of JD tractor starting problems. Leaking transmission oil will cause oil wastage. 20 years of build up. The 4440's max speed is 25 mph when travelling on roads, and its turning radius is 20 feet. Ask a Expert, Get . Check the tie-rod ends. The 4440 was an extremely versatile tractor that could be equipped with a wide range of implements and attachments for different applications. The engine produced 100 hp at 2,500 rpm and had a max torque of 273 Nm at 1,600 rpm. If found broken, Replace those valves. I would have a hard time . However, gears 6 and 8 won't engage. What is sounder transmission . Plus I'm usually my own mechanic but a power shift transmission and quad range is a little out of my league I can learn but really have no clue, They have both been proven to be reliable transmissions. My favorite tractor. Hydraulic Pump Shafts Bearing w/Rollers AR89072 . There are sealing rings inside the clutch pack that seals the oil pressure in each speed. Looking for a John Deere 4440 for sale? Well it was nowhere near that today, but the pressures weren't that far off considering that. In this article, we will discuss the common transmission problems associated with the John Deere 4430 and provide a step-by-step guide on how to diagnose and fix them. If it lived this long those 34's are long gone, I bet! Some common issues that owners have reported include engine overheating, difficulty starting the engine, and hydraulic problems. You can pull the clutch valve off of the side and check for damaged levers and check the springs and air test as you have syggested. They don't look like the one in your picture. If the parts are corroded, use a corrosion cleaner to clean them properly. That one seemed to be better than the first. John deere 4440. Some off the hydraulic oil on the market is junk. A John Deere 4440 tractor holds approximately 85 gallons of fuel. Both had quad range so that's why we kept the 4440. Change the air filter and oil filter if they are dirty. 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