It looked like an epidemic had destroyed the place. Youd fire a round in the air, and theyd say, Oh shit, theyre shooting, and theyd run. The year is 1963 but their experiences are universal: falling in love, surviving in school and defending their turf against rivals like the Fordham Baldies, the Del Bombers and the Ducky Boys. Wasnt too much of a fight. By the time Henry and Stephanie reached junior high school, gangs were becoming an issue, particularly the Fordham Baldies. Egyptian Dragons". And they wouldnt flip colors. On February 23, 2018, my book on the Mau Maus and Sand Street Angels, who were two Brooklyn youth gangs from the 1950s, has . However, when they got there, the Fordham Baldies who had been frequenting Orchard Beach on a regular basis, found out the Red Wings were hanging out on Section 17 of the beach. That was like Jersey to me, Avenue D. The bullets were just whizzing by my ear. Everybody else ran. There would be a fight set up, and we told you to be there at seven oclock. If somebody says, Oh, let me see your colors, turn around, its not something you do. - Mgm|(talk) 05:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC), this was in the HelpDesk when I had the article's name changed. I mean, I could have been arrested for date rape a million times. Murder Inc. came out of that neighborhood. It was like a game. They were knife-happy. So we all hang out now, go to parties, things like that. I always sniffed. You could also take a chimney apartgrab a couple bricks and throw those. If you remember the scene where they tied a rope to the penises of two guys on a bridge and threw a cinder block over the side down to the a river, that was the Bronx River near French Charlie's baseball field. There was a guy called the Baron and a guy called Bob the Queer, and theyd get us whatever we wanted. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety. Our gang was the wiseguys, you know what I mean? I would say, three out of every five shootouts, somebody would get hit. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. Lot of guys went to jail. But I wasnt there, I just wound up getting accused of it. They werent really that strong of a weapon. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. We didnt have rules or initiations. Many of us had guns, although I never knew of any used in a fight. That was my opportunity. The guys in the restaurants were cool with us, and in return, we took care of them. And to make it more interesting, this gang fight happened far from East Harlem it happened in the Bronx in Baldies turf at 189th Street and Belmont Ave. Not in my memory! Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. Wed fire at a guy standing three feet away, and wed miss. You just couldnt believe it. In fact, all three people who were involved in the murder ended up dying within three years of it. Ducking from shootouts and things like that. Then you had all these other little clubs in between. Such rumors would often bring along a large police presence, and long disruptions. A lot of times, people would come back all beat up and bruised. areas at 8 PM. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. Wed get harassed by the cops all the time, but then again, that was a time when if you had a fight on the street, the cops would grab you, kick you in the ass, and send you on your way like, Get outta here. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. lol" Another former gang member from the Garrisons had this to say about the Duckies: "If you were planning to visit the Botanical Gardens in the Bronx you needed to concern yourself with the "Duck(ie)s." Legend has it, if you are visiting the Bronx Botanical Gardens and blast out a 'Duckie Whistle', Duckies will show up to greet you till this day! They didnt like me too much. I wound up doing like 13 years and change in jail. We went to the roof above this nightclub and when they started coming out, we just rained bottles and bricks down on their heads. It started as a dance club, and as things happened in the clubarguments and fightsit became a gang. Department Chair: Dr. Ipsita Banerjee (JMH 642) Associate Chair: Dr. Joshua Schrier (JMH 616) Administrator: Adriana Magnotta (JMH 642) Ipsita Banerjee, Ph.D. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. Any gear you could put on, no matter how hot or cold it was, you went to 42nd and wore your colors proudly. on/associate of the Baldies was killed--shot to the head, and two We were just crooks, you know what I mean? They loved us, you know, because they were fags and they loved young kids. Tully High School seniors Richie, Joey and Perry run with a gang called The Wanderers in the Bronx. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. Richard Price lived in Parkside Projects and hung out with a different crowd then us. In the 1960s, among students citywide, truancy increased and socializing gained priority, whereby other high schools often issued diplomas once their requirements were met via Roosevelt's evening and summer . It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. Any girl that wasnt a virgin, if you went out with her you couldnt let her get away, because there werent many around. We were sitting on the corner of Longwood, drinking beer, and this particular club came by and started shooting. From the east side, are But I lived in the streets with them. Wed break into cars, stuff like that. So from being 30 guys with six jackets, we became a thousand just by hooking up with them. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. But yeah, I broke into every factory. He must have had a vest, cause let me tell you, this guy had fucking balls. It was a handful of us that really made most of the noise. I saw a lot of people get killed and a lot of people go to jail. We protected women. Bucks, the Gents and the Garrisons gangs. All of a sudden wed start hitting each other. TRIKER1 (talk) 15:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply], I read the article twice and I still have no idea what most of it was talking about. Next thing you knew, youd be fighting. It really wasnt a good way to come up, but thats just the way the neighborhood was. (1) The Harlem Redwings did a "drive-by" on the Fordham Baldies, on I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. Wake him up, hustle. But they looked at us and they said, It was Alicat So it was Alicat. I think Frankie got the best of him, and they got back in the cars, and Frankie chased him. The Spanish guys were different. So a lot of guys ODd. Wed have sticks, bats, clubs, and bottles, and wed just beat the heck out of each other until the cops came or until we got tired of it. I was trying to find my way out, and I went into this room and there was an opium den. Thats how the whole biker thing came about first. That was all tongue in cheek. You have it all. Corona Queens - Best Italian Ice in New york City. We were the two stupid guys that got caught. People started making money on their own and they forgot about their buddies. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. They punctured his lung and he almost died. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety.. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. I mean, we liked to have a good old-fashioned fight and beat the hell outta each other, but we never had no intentions of, Lets go down there and kill a few of em. We all lived in the same neighborhoodthat was another reason why we werent out to kill each other. Thats when we started realizing that we had lost the numbers. These were all pretty much in the same area and were all converted store fronts with bars. A couple times, wed take somebody down there and leave em, maybe tied up, and he had to get out by himself. At its centre is Italian-American kid Richie (Ken Wahl) who is one of. The guys and I would go and take it and strip the parts off and hed get his insurance. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. Basically, the Dirty Ones was the only gang that was friendly with us. And the drugs? A loosely organized street gang with fewer than 60 members and a name inspired by a cartoon has taken on near-mythical status among high school students in New York City, the police and school. Every Friday and Saturday night I would go to factories on Bedford Avenue, Wythe Avenue, and Flushing Avenue. You get high. Both Frank and Vincent were packing fully loaded automatic pistols. It was just a lucky shot and it went right through this guys arm. Can't remember all their name and only some of their last names. They had another Italian neighborhood, down on Cherry Street and Madison that was just the same as ours. They parked the Caddy and settled in at Section 17 of Orchard Beach which at the time was divided into 27 sections (now it is divided into 13 sections). It was a crazy neighborhood. Someone please remove this, its a rap music term. Unknown Bikers were just big in Williamsburg, South 9 Bikers the same. But it made a big noise and a flash of light. down on them. Their rivals were the Harlem Dragons, who killed one of their own in 1955.The Demons who they had vicious rumbles with. He lived like that for a long time. Second, I want to expand the introduction. We used to look up to the Hells Angels back then. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. I didnt take no shit from nobody. But thats the way they did it in those days. I left in Mean Streets temporarily, but I am pretty sure that the Little Italy it depicted was Manhattan's, and therefore it should be out as well. The RailRoad Boys, East New York/Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. Little by little the white gang broke up. I am currently researching these two killings one in 1958 and the other in 1959 and hope to write about them in more detail in the future. What used to happen was, wed hang out at someones apartment, but then theyd move out. Chemistry Faculty. In the back of the park there were freight trains that ran underneath and there was one tunnel that was closed off due to an explosion. Mary Hamilton (l. 14). They were like, Whos the president? and a couple of guys went over, and we had this truce. We had a clubhouse. Coke was popular when it first came out, but heroin was the drug of choice because it was a better high. I guess I was lucky. So wed form a line, walk right down and stop. When we were done I carried him up four flights of stairs on my shoulders to his house, stoned out of my head. . Wed cut a hole in the fence, go in the cemetery, and have make-out sessions. A close knit group that consisted mainly of blacks and Puerto Ricans, We didnt even have to do anything. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by Fonzie from Happy Days. Ive snorted a lot of cocaine in my fuckin life, but these guys I know who used to do snuff, their noses used to fuckin bleed. Sometimes people got hit by cars. Its something you die for, like a flag. On that day the Baldies happened to be in Section 11 and when someone asked for help, they proceeded to Section 17 to inform the Red Wings that this was their area. I got into the gangs very, very early. The University also supports a number of club sports, and a significant intramural . We were trying to imitate them. I had a very bad temper back then. Clubs may be doing their dirt, but the people on the block aint bitching because they do good for the block. What was so funny was that a lot of the people were intermingled, family-wise. The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. Go home. SM28, Mount Carmel Candy Store Home of the Best New York Egg Creams. All of us went to school together. We were never really into robbing people. It was an opportunistic thing. We were all hanging out together already, the Unknowns and the South 9s. If you want to talk about family members alone, Ive lost five. I gave her two bucks and I came in about two seconds, then went home and jerked off ten times thinking about it. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. Jumping back in Giampettruzzis Cadillac, the five Red Wings headed back to Orchard Beach. Everyone had a little more respect in them days. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. Tvoz | talk 06:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I agree with and understand all the changes. But down in Chinatown, you could buy a tin of cocaine snuff for 25 cents. All the defendants were found guilty and the shooters Ciappetta and Gugliemelli were sent to prison for twenty years. With that money Id buy wine and cigarettes. at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. John Gotti, too. They looked at both of us, and I was a little relieved because I said to myself, well, they really was there, so Im gonna walk. He died in a tragic fuckin condition. We all got along. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. Baseball Baseball: Facebook Baseball: Twitter Baseball: Instagram Baseball: Schedule Baseball: Roster Baseball: News Basketball Basketball: Facebook Basketball: Twitter Basketball: Instagram Basketball: Schedule Basketball: Roster Basketball: News Cross Country Cross Country: Facebook Cross Country: Twitter Cross . After that I knew it was nothing serious, so I never bothered to go to the hospital. Now were going to wear these denim jackets with patches on them. And then all of a sudden, youd find yourself claiming a piece of Brooklyn as your fuckin real estate. But it wasnt like they asked us to. We also used the 'whistle' as an all clear after the cops had given up chasing us around and it was safe to come back out. I go to a funeral now and I dont even cry. Everyone pleaded not-guilty and a trial proceeded the following year in April 1955. When I last saw them, they were street fighters, members of the Fordham Baldies, a gang that made our Little Italy neighborhood unsafe for outsiders. There were real gangsters around too. They said, Youre not supposed to be on our block. Not embarrassed to say I was a member and yes, they were very real. This page is not available in other languages. At that time I was doing a lot of harm to the Dukes, and the cops figured, lets get him off the streets. Wed see them coming, walking up Bushwick Avenue in a line of like 20 abreast. This event took place in Washington Heights, People hustled their money. Their turf was around Jefferson Park, 116th Avenue and Pleasant Ave. I carried a .25, then later a 9 mm. There was one Irish kid, I think, and one black kid. The ones that didnt go in are the ones that died along the way. Premieres in 64 minutes February 20 at 4:30 PM BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Dusty Vision TV - DVTV 36.5K subscribers Subscribe 0 1 waiting Premieres Feb 20, 2023 Dusty Vision TV on. It was an abandoned building. We ran out of a restaurant without paying one time, ran down into this building, and they had like catacombs. I got stabbed in the head one day with an umbrella. There were also after school programs Stephanie went to that had a lot of activities for the kids. Theres a lot of people walking around messed up to this day, and a lot of people dead. I never robbed anybody. All of them met violent deaths. Our program is free and empowers youth to champion mental health advocacy and awareness with their peers. After 1940, the Jewish population faded and their diaspora paved the way for the hispanics to settle there. I never did, but I know there were guys in the gang that did. This guys sister might be living with that guys brother, or you might have a kid with that guys sister. It worked the same way for us when we were in their neighborhood. On a warm Saturday night, wed all be up on the hill. What they had at that time was called the Youth Squad. Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. Theres still a lot of people around. The force would cause the rubber band to shoot a .22 bullet. But that didnt last too long once they got used to it. He left behind a wife and child. Some of the cops knew us too. 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